Welcome back, Dear Reader, to my ongoing hobby and competitive progress series for 2025. Previously on Road Through 2025, I was doing more hobby work and testing a terminator-heavy Thousand Sons list. This week I’m finally in the final prep for the Challengers Cup and heading to Salt Lake City for the event.
In fact, as I write this, I’m currently in the house we’ve rented ahead of the team – we’ve rented a pair of joined houses for the weekend with a host of beds in order to house our team of weirdoes. And I’m here by myself at the moment, because well, planning 8-man teams events really sucks. This is my second of the year, and the second time I’ve had to make last-minute adjustments to the roster. Last time around it was replacing Chase “Gunum” Garber and Ben Cherwien; this time around it was four replacements. First it was Liam “Corrode” Royle and James “One_Wing” Grover, who were going to come out a few days early to do some hiking and regular vacation stuff. Then they decided travel to the US wasn’t in the cards this year which, fair, but meant we had to replace them. Then it was Chase, who had the same issue that sidelined him from Ottawa, and then for the last few weeks I’ve been trying to replace Scott Horras, who can’t play in the final round.
It has not been my favorite experience, to say the least, and because I bought the tickets early, I’m now the only one at the house, waiting for everyone to get here.

The good news is, it’s a pretty nice house. Or pair of houses.
The Team
I’ve talked about these guys, but it’s worth going back over them in detail. Note that the event had a team vote last week, and we voted to use the new balance update and drop Challenger cards from the event. This was the right call, even if it means lists were finalized late.
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Robert “TheChirurgeon” Jones
Army:Â Death Guard
It’s me! I’m back on my Death Guard bullshit, running Mortarion’s Hammer again in a teams environment. It’s the same list I’ve been running for weeks now, and the same list I ran at the Tabled Talk GT earlier this month. I think they’re still a great army, and post-dataslate very much have the power to beat most lists.
My list - click to expand ettin DG hammer list (1990 points) Death Guard CHARACTERS Lord of Contagion (120 points) Lord of Virulence (130 points) OTHER DATASHEETS Deathshroud Terminators (160 points) Deathshroud Terminators (160 points) Foetid Bloat-Drone with Heavy Blight Launcher (120 points) Foetid Bloat-Drone with Heavy Blight Launcher (120 points) Foetid Bloat-Drone with Heavy Blight Launcher (120 points) Myphitic Blight-haulers (100 points) Myphitic Blight-haulers (100 points) Myphitic Blight-haulers (100 points) Plagueburst Crawler (210 points) Plagueburst Crawler (210 points) Plagueburst Crawler (210 points) Poxwalkers (65 points) Poxwalkers (65 points) Exported with App Version: v1.40.0 (93), Data Version: v674
Strike Force (2000 points)
Mortarion’s Hammer
• 1x Manreaper
• Warlord
• 1x Power fist
1x Twin plague spewer
• Enhancement: Tendrilous Emissions
• 1x Deathshroud Champion
• 1x Manreaper
1x Plaguespurt gauntlet
• 2x Deathshroud Terminator
• 2x Manreaper
2x Plaguespurt gauntlet
• 1x Deathshroud Champion
• 1x Manreaper
1x Plaguespurt gauntlet
• 2x Deathshroud Terminator
• 2x Manreaper
2x Plaguespurt gauntlet
• 1x Heavy blight launcher
1x Plague probe
• 1x Heavy blight launcher
1x Plague probe
• 1x Heavy blight launcher
1x Plague probe
• 1x Bile spurt
1x Gnashing maw
1x Missile launcher
1x Multi-melta
• 1x Bile spurt
1x Gnashing maw
1x Missile launcher
1x Multi-melta
• 1x Bile spurt
1x Gnashing maw
1x Missile launcher
1x Multi-melta
• 1x Armoured tracks
2x Entropy cannon
1x Heavy slugger
1x Plagueburst mortar
• 1x Armoured tracks
2x Entropy cannon
1x Heavy slugger
1x Plagueburst mortar
• 1x Armoured tracks
2x Entropy cannon
1x Heavy slugger
1x Plagueburst mortar
• 10x Poxwalker
• 10x Improvised weapon
• 10x Poxwalker
• 10x Improvised weapon
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James “Boon” Kelling
Army:Â Aeldari
James is also back on his Elf Bullshit, but buoyed a bit by point drops to several key units in the recent balance update. The big difference this time around is that James is no longer running Seer Council and instead running Aspect Warhost, with a list that’s quite a bit more versatile than the one he ran in Ottawa. I expect he’ll win more games this time.
Boon's list - click to expand Okay Booner (1995 points) Aeldari CHARACTERS Baharroth (115 points) Eldrad Ulthran (110 points) Fuegan (120 points) Lhykhis (120 points) Maugan Ra (100 points) BATTLELINE Storm Guardians (100 points) DEDICATED TRANSPORTS Wave Serpent (125 points) OTHER DATASHEETS Dark Reapers (90 points) Falcon (130 points) Fire Dragons (220 points) Rangers (55 points) Shining Spears (110 points) Swooping Hawks (85 points) War Walkers (85 points) War Walkers (85 points) Warlock Skyrunners (45 points) Warlock Skyrunners (45 points) Warp Spiders (95 points) Windriders (160 points)
Strike Force (2000 points)
Warhost
• 1x Fury of the Tempest
1x Shining Blade
• Warlord
• 1x Mind War
1x Shuriken pistol
1x The Staff of Ulthamar and witchblade
• 1x Fire Axe
1x Searsong
• 1x Brood Twain
1x Spider’s Fangs
1x Weaverender
• 1x Maugetar
• 10x Storm Guardian
• 8x Close combat weapon
2x Flamer
2x Fusion gun
2x Power sword
6x Shuriken pistol
• 1x Serpent’s Scale Platform
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Serpent shield
• 1x Shuriken cannon
1x Twin bright lance
1x Wraithbone hull
• 1x Dark Reaper Exarch
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Missile launcher
• 4x Dark Reaper
• 4x Close combat weapon
4x Reaper launcher
• 1x Bright lance
1x Pulse laser
1x Shuriken cannon
1x Wraithbone hull
• 1x Fire Dragon Exarch
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Firepike
• 9x Fire Dragon
• 9x Close combat weapon
9x Dragon fusion gun
• 5x Ranger
• 5x Close combat weapon
5x Long rifle
5x Shuriken pistol
• 1x Shining Spear Exarch
• 1x Shimmershield
1x Shuriken cannon
1x Star lance
• 2x Shining Spear
• 2x Laser lance
2x Twin shuriken catapult
• 1x Swooping Hawk Exarch
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Hawk’s talon
• 4x Swooping Hawk
• 4x Close combat weapon
4x Lasblaster
• 2x Starcannon
1x War Walker feet
• 2x Starcannon
1x War Walker feet
• 1x Destructor
1x Shuriken pistol
1x Singing Spear
1x Twin shuriken catapult
• 1x Destructor
1x Shuriken pistol
1x Singing Spear
1x Twin shuriken catapult
• 1x Warp Spider Exarch
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Powerblade array
• 4x Warp Spider
• 4x Close combat weapon
4x Death spinner
• 6x Windrider
• 6x Close combat weapon
6x Shuriken cannon
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Shane Watts
Army:Â Leagues of Votann
Shane’s still running Leagues of Votann, but with the new book. He’s been a big proponent of the Brandfast Oathband detachment and while he’s recently started to come around on the Hearthband thanks to the balance update, this is where he has all his reps.
Shane's List - click to Expand Covenant of Hashut (2000 Points) Leagues of Votann CHARACTERS Brôkhyr Iron-master (80 Points) Buri Aegnirssen (110 Points) Ûthar the Destined (95 Points) BATTLELINE Hearthkyn Warriors (100 Points) Hearthkyn Warriors (100 Points) DEDICATED TRANSPORTS Sagitaur (95 Points) OTHER DATASHEETS Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 Points) Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 Points) Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 Points) Cthonian Earthshakers (110 Points) Hekaton Land Fortress (240 Points) Hekaton Land Fortress (240 Points) Hekaton Land Fortress (240 Points) Hernkyn Pioneers (80 Points) Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 Points) Ironkin Steeljacks with Heavy Volkanite Disintegrators (180 Points) Exported with App Version: v1.41.0 (3), Data Version: v685
Brandfast Oathband
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
• 1x Brôkhyr Iron-master
â—¦ 1x Graviton hammer
â—¦ 1x Graviton rifle
â—¦ Enhancements: Signature Restoration
• 1x Ironkin Assistant
â—¦ 1x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 1x Las-beam cutter
• 1x E-COG
â—¦ 1x Plasma torch
• 1x E-COG
â—¦ 1x Manipulator arms
• 1x E-COG
â—¦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
â—¦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Autoch‑pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Bane
• Warlord
• 1x Blade of the Ancestors
• 1x Rampart Crest
• 1x Volkanite disintegrator
• 1x Theyn
â—¦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
â—¦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Theyn’s melee weapon
◦ 1x Theyn’s pistol
â—¦ 1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
â—¦ 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
â—¦ 9x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 1x HYLas auto rifle
â—¦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
â—¦ 7x Ion blaster
• 1x Theyn
â—¦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
â—¦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Theyn’s melee weapon
◦ 1x Theyn’s pistol
â—¦ 1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
â—¦ 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
â—¦ 9x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 1x HYLas auto rifle
â—¦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
â—¦ 7x Ion blaster
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x HYLas beam cannon
• 1x Twin bolt cannon
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
â—¦ 3x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 3x SP conversion beamer
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
â—¦ 3x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 3x SP conversion beamer
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
â—¦ 3x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 3x SP conversion beamer
• 2x Cthonian Earthshakers
â—¦ 2x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
â—¦ 2x Plasma picks
â—¦ 2x Tremor shells
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Heavy magna-rail cannon
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Heavy magna-rail cannon
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Heavy magna-rail cannon
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
â—¦ 3x Bolt revolver
â—¦ 3x Bolt shotgun
â—¦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
â—¦ 3x Magna-coil autocannon
â—¦ 1x Panspectral Scanner
â—¦ 3x Plasma knife
â—¦ 1x Rollbar Searchlight
• 1x Yaegir Theyn
â—¦ 1x Bolt revolver
â—¦ 1x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 1x Plasma knife
• 9x Hernkyn Yaegir
â—¦ 1x APM launcher
â—¦ 7x Bolt revolver
â—¦ 9x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 1x Magna-coil rifle
â—¦ 7x Plasma knife
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
â—¦ 1x Heavy volkanite disintegrator
â—¦ 1x Plasma knife
â—¦ 1x Preymark Crest
• 5x Ironkin Steeljack
â—¦ 5x Heavy volkanite disintegrator
â—¦ 5x Plasma knife
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Scott Horras “Heresy”
Army:Â Astra Militarum
Scott’s on Astra Militarum, running as many Rogals Dorn as he can fit into a list – the same thing he’s been doing all edition. He’s made a few adjustments to his army since the balance dataslate dropped but the overall strategy remains the same.
Scott's List - Click to Expand Get in the Dornhole, Shinji (1990 points) Astra Militarum CHARACTERS Gaunt’s Ghosts (100 points) Rogal Dorn Commander (290 points) Rogal Dorn Commander (285 points) Ursula Creed (85 points) BATTLELINE Cadian Shock Troops (65 points) DEDICATED TRANSPORTS Taurox (75 points) Taurox (75 points) Taurox (75 points) OTHER DATASHEETS Kasrkin (110 points) Kasrkin (110 points) Kasrkin (110 points) Rogal Dorn Battle Tank (250 points) Rogal Dorn Battle Tank (250 points) Scout Sentinels (55 points) Scout Sentinels (55 points)
Strike Force (2000 points)
Combined Arms
• 1x Ibram Gaunt
• 1x Bolt Pistol
1x Gaunt’s chainsword
• 1x Colm Corbec
• 1x Corbec’s hot-shot lascarbine
1x Straight silver knife
• 1x Elim Rawne
• 1x Rawne’s lascarbine
1x Straight silver knife
• 1x Hlaine Larkin
• 1x Larkin’s long-las
1x Straight silver knife
• 1x ’Try Again’ Bragg
• 1x Bragg’s autocannon
1x Straight silver knife
• 1x Oan Mkoll
• 1x Lascarbine
1x Mkoll’s straight silver knife
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Coaxial autocannon
1x Heavy stubber
2x Meltagun
2x Multi-melta
1x Oppressor cannon
1x Pulveriser cannon
• Enhancement: Grand Strategist
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Coaxial autocannon
1x Heavy stubber
2x Meltagun
2x Multi-melta
1x Oppressor cannon
1x Pulveriser cannon
• Enhancement: Death Mask of Ollanius
• Warlord
• 1x Duty and Vengeance
1x Power weapon
• 1x Shock Trooper Sergeant
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Sergeant’s autogun
• 9x Shock Trooper
• 9x Close combat weapon
7x Lasgun
1x Meltagun
1x Plasma gun
1x Vox-caster
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Storm bolter
1x Twin autocannon
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Storm bolter
1x Twin autocannon
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Storm bolter
1x Twin autocannon
• 1x Kasrkin Sergeant
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power weapon
• 9x Kasrkin
• 9x Close combat weapon
3x Hot-shot lasgun
1x Hot-shot laspistol
1x Hot-shot marksman rifle
1x Melta Mine
2x Meltagun
2x Plasma gun
1x Vox-caster
• 1x Kasrkin Sergeant
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power weapon
• 9x Kasrkin
• 9x Close combat weapon
3x Hot-shot lasgun
1x Hot-shot laspistol
1x Hot-shot marksman rifle
1x Melta Mine
2x Meltagun
2x Plasma gun
1x Vox-caster
• 1x Kasrkin Sergeant
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power weapon
• 9x Kasrkin
• 9x Close combat weapon
3x Hot-shot lasgun
1x Hot-shot laspistol
1x Hot-shot marksman rifle
1x Melta Mine
2x Meltagun
2x Plasma gun
1x Vox-caster
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Coaxial autocannon
1x Heavy stubber
2x Meltagun
2x Multi-melta
1x Oppressor cannon
1x Pulveriser cannon
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Coaxial autocannon
1x Heavy stubber
2x Meltagun
2x Multi-melta
1x Oppressor cannon
1x Pulveriser cannon
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Lascannon
1x Sentinel chainsaw
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Lascannon
1x Sentinel chainsaw
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Campbell “SRM” McLaughlin
Army:Â Black Templars
Our Space Marine slot is Campbell, who’s running Black Templars. After some big success with the faction last year (Campbell has become fully comp-pilled), he’s been slowly getting reps in with the new army – most recently at NOVA – and improving with them.
Campbell's List - Click to Expand Ironstormy (1995 Points) Space Marines CHARACTERS Emperor’s Champion (90 Points) High Marshal Helbrecht (120 Points) Marshal (80 Points) Marshal (80 Points) Techmarine (85 Points) Techmarine (90 Points) BATTLELINE Assault Intercessor Squad (75 Points) Crusader Squad (150 Points) Impulsor (85 Points) OTHER DATASHEETS Infiltrator Squad (100 Points) Land Raider Redeemer (270 Points) Repulsor Executioner (220 Points) Repulsor Executioner (220 Points) Scout Squad (70 Points) Sword Brethren Squad (130 Points) Sword Brethren Squad (130 Points) Exported with App Version: v1.41.0 (3), Data Version: v685
Black Templars
Ironstorm Spearhead
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
• 1x Black Sword
• 1x Bolt Pistol
• Warlord
• 1x Ferocity
• 1x Sword of the High Marshals
• 1x Master-crafted power weapon
• 1x Plasma pistol
• 1x Combi-weapon
• 1x Master-crafted power weapon
• 1x Forge bolter
• 1x Grav-pistol
• 1x Omnissian power axe
• 1x Servo-arm
• Enhancements: Target Augury Web
• 1x Forge bolter
• 1x Grav-pistol
• 1x Omnissian power axe
• 1x Servo-arm
• Enhancements: Adept of the Omnissiah
• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant
â—¦ 1x Plasma pistol
â—¦ 1x Thunder hammer
• 4x Assault Intercessor
â—¦ 4x Astartes chainsword
â—¦ 4x Heavy bolt pistol
• 1x Sword Brother
â—¦ 1x Master-crafted power weapon
â—¦ 1x Pyre pistol
• 5x Initiate
â—¦ 3x Astartes chainsword
â—¦ 5x Bolt pistol
â—¦ 5x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 5x Heavy bolt pistol
â—¦ 2x Power fist
• 4x Neophyte
â—¦ 4x Astartes chainsword
â—¦ 4x Bolt pistol
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Shield Dome
• 2x Storm bolter
• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant
â—¦ 1x Bolt pistol
â—¦ 1x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 1x Marksman bolt carbine
• 4x Infiltrator
â—¦ 4x Bolt pistol
â—¦ 4x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 4x Marksman bolt carbine
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 2x Flamestorm cannon
• 1x Hunter-killer missile
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Storm bolter
• 1x Twin assault cannon
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Heavy laser destroyer
• 1x Heavy onslaught gatling cannon
• 1x Icarus rocket pod
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Repulsor Executioner defensive array
• 1x Twin Icarus ironhail heavy stubber
• 1x Twin heavy bolter
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Heavy laser destroyer
• 1x Heavy onslaught gatling cannon
• 1x Icarus rocket pod
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Repulsor Executioner defensive array
• 1x Twin Icarus ironhail heavy stubber
• 1x Twin heavy bolter
• 1x Scout Sergeant
â—¦ 1x Bolt pistol
â—¦ 1x Boltgun
â—¦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 4x Scout
â—¦ 4x Bolt pistol
â—¦ 2x Boltgun
â—¦ 4x Close combat weapon
â—¦ 1x Heavy bolter
â—¦ 1x Scout sniper rifle
• 5x Sword Brother
â—¦ 4x Heavy bolt pistol
â—¦ 3x Master-crafted power weapon
â—¦ 1x Thunder hammer
â—¦ 1x Twin lightning claws
• 5x Sword Brother
â—¦ 1x Heavy bolt pistol
â—¦ 4x Master-crafted power weapon
â—¦ 1x Plasma pistol
â—¦ 2x Pyre pistol
â—¦ 1x Twin lightning claws

Norman Greenberg
Army:Â Chaos Knights
Norman’s back on Chaos Knights, something everyone expected. Chaos Knights had one hell of a summer but are looking quite a bit less powerful following the points adjustment and Q3 balance update. That said, Norman has a ton of reps with the army, though few with a list running zero daemons.
Norman's List - Click to Expand Challengers_New_Pornographers.mp3 (2000 points) Chaos Knights CHARACTERS Chaos Cerastus Knight Atrapos (395 points) Chaos Cerastus Knight Lancer (385 points) Knight Despoiler (395 points) Knight Despoiler (375 points) OTHER DATASHEETS War Dog Karnivore (150 points) War Dog Karnivore (150 points) War Dog Karnivore (150 points) Exported with App Version: v1.40.1 (94), Data Version: v675
Strike Force (2000 points)
Infernal Lance
• Warlord
• 1x Atrapos lascutter
1x Graviton singularity cannon
• 1x Cerastus shock lance
• 1x Daemonbreath meltagun
2x Daemonbreath thermal cannon
1x Ruinspear rocket pod
1x Titanic feet
• Enhancement: Bestial Aspect
• 1x Daemonbreath meltagun
2x Despoiler gatling cannon
2x Heavy darkflamer
1x Titanic feet
• 1x Diabolus heavy stubber
1x Reaper chaintalon
1x Slaughterclaw
• 1x Diabolus heavy stubber
1x Reaper chaintalon
1x Slaughterclaw
• 1x Diabolus heavy stubber
1x Reaper chaintalon
1x Slaughterclaw

Thomas “Goatboy” Reidy
Army:Â World Eaters
I met Thomas in person at Frontline Gaming’s Dallas Open back in 2022 and we hit it off immediately. Thomas is one of my favorite people in this hobby, and as a fellow Chaos sicko it’s always fun to talk shop with him. He’s running World Eaters, helping us cover our “80 berzerkers” list hole.
Goatboy's List - Click to Expand Goatboy World Eaters (1995 Points) World Eaters CHARACTERS Daemon Prince of Khorne (220 Points) Slaughterbound (110 Points) OTHER DATASHEETS Chaos Land Raider (220 Points) Chaos Spawn (90 Points) Chaos Spawn (90 Points) Chaos Spawn (90 Points) Eightbound (135 Points) Eightbound (135 Points) Eightbound (135 Points) Exalted Eightbound (140 Points) Exalted Eightbound (140 Points) Forgefiend (170 Points) Forgefiend (170 Points) Goremongers (85 Points) Jakhals (65 Points) Exported with App Version: v1.41.0 (3), Data Version: v685
Berzerker Warband
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Hellforged weapons
• 1x Infernal cannon
• Enhancements: Helm of Brazen Ire
• 1x Lacerator and daemonic claw
• Enhancements: Berzerker Glaive
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 1x Combi-bolter
• 1x Havoc launcher
• 2x Soulshatter lascannon
• 1x Twin heavy bolter
• 2x Chaos Spawn
â—¦ 2x Hideous mutations
• 2x Chaos Spawn
â—¦ 2x Hideous mutations
• 2x Chaos Spawn
â—¦ 2x Hideous mutations
• 1x Eightbound Champion
â—¦ 1x Chainblades
• 2x Eightbound
â—¦ 2x Chainblades
• 1x Eightbound Champion
â—¦ 1x Chainblades
• 2x Eightbound
â—¦ 2x Chainblades
• 1x Eightbound Champion
â—¦ 1x Chainblades
• 2x Eightbound
â—¦ 2x Chainblades
• 1x Exalted Eightbound Champion
â—¦ 1x Chainblades
• 2x Exalted Eightbound
â—¦ 2x Chainblades
• 1x Exalted Eightbound Champion
â—¦ 1x Chainblades
• 2x Exalted Eightbound
â—¦ 2x Chainblades
• 2x Ectoplasma cannon
• 1x Ectoplasma cannon
• 1x Forgefiend claws
• 2x Ectoplasma cannon
• 1x Ectoplasma cannon
• 1x Forgefiend claws
• 1x Blood Herald
â—¦ 1x Autopistol
â—¦ 1x Chainblade
â—¦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 7x Goremongers
â—¦ 7x Autopistol
â—¦ 7x Chainblade
â—¦ 7x Close combat weapon
• 1x Jakhal Pack Leader
â—¦ 1x Autopistol
â—¦ 1x Chainblades
• 1x Dishonoured
â—¦ 1x Paired manglers
• 8x Jakhal
â—¦ 8x Autopistol
â—¦ 8x Chainblades

Wallace O’Donnell
Army:Â Chaos Space Marines
Wallace is a stand-up guy who worked with us to put on the 2023 US Goonhammer Open at the Baltimore Convention Center. He’s traditionally a Chaos Daemons and CSM player and stepped up to fill Chase’s spot after he was unable to attend the event.
Wallace's list - click to expand Goon Team (2000 Points) Chaos Space Marines CHARACTERS Lord Discordant on Helstalker (180 Points) Lord Discordant on Helstalker (185 Points) Vashtorr the Arkifane (175 Points) BATTLELINE Cultist Mob (50 Points) Cultist Mob (50 Points) Cultist Mob (50 Points) OTHER DATASHEETS Forgefiend (180 Points) Forgefiend (180 Points) Forgefiend (180 Points) Helbrute (130 Points) Heldrake (205 Points) Venomcrawler (110 Points) Venomcrawler (110 Points) Venomcrawler (110 Points) ALLIED UNITS Beasts of Nurgle (65 Points) Nurglings (40 Points)
Soulforged Warpack
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
• 1x Baleflamer
• 1x Bladed limbs
• 1x Bolt Pistol
• 1x Impaler chainglaive
• 1x Magma cutter
• Enhancements: Forge’s Blessing
• 1x Baleflamer
• 1x Bladed limbs
• 1x Bolt Pistol
• 1x Impaler chainglaive
• 1x Magma cutter
• Enhancements: Tempting Addendum
• Warlord
• 1x Vashtorr’s claw
• 1x Vashtorr’s hammer
• 1x Cultist Champion
â—¦ 1x Autopistol
â—¦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 9x Chaos Cultist
â—¦ 9x Autopistol
â—¦ 9x Brutal assault weapon
• 1x Cultist Champion
â—¦ 1x Autopistol
â—¦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 9x Chaos Cultist
â—¦ 9x Autopistol
â—¦ 9x Brutal assault weapon
• 1x Cultist Champion
â—¦ 1x Autopistol
â—¦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 9x Chaos Cultist
â—¦ 9x Autopistol
â—¦ 9x Brutal assault weapon
• 1x Armoured limbs
• 1x Ectoplasma cannon
• 2x Hades autocannon
• 1x Armoured limbs
• 2x Ectoplasma cannon
• 1x Ectoplasma cannon
• 1x Armoured limbs
• 2x Ectoplasma cannon
• 1x Ectoplasma cannon
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 2x Heavy flamer
• 1x Helbrute fist
• 1x Helbrute fist
• 1x Baleflamer
• 1x Heldrake claws
• 2x Excruciator cannon
• 1x Soulflayer tendrils and claws
• 2x Excruciator cannon
• 1x Soulflayer tendrils and claws
• 2x Excruciator cannon
• 1x Soulflayer tendrils and claws
• 1x Putrid appendages
• 3x Nurgling Swarm
â—¦ 3x Diseased claws and teeth
On top of this, a local Orks player is subbing in for Scott in round 6 when he has to fly back early to make an early Monday morning work obligation.
That’s a very solid team, and by Stat-Check’s Elo, we’re firmly in the middle of the pack, ranking 16th out of the 32 teams at the event. I’m personally hoping we can finish somewhere around 3-3 over the six rounds we’ll play, but I’m also just happy to be hanging out with the guys, playing Warhammer. I packed up and flew out to the house on Tuesday ahead of everyone else and I’ve been mostly working remotely and enjoying the place. It’s not a bad house – there’s a hot tub and the grill is solid – and checking out the local area. It’s not amazing, but there’s a grocery store and a number of places to eat nearby, even if most are fast food. It’s mostly a highway, but there’s some pretty terrain behind it.

My plan the first two days has been to eat cereal and sandwiches for breakfast and lunch and then go out for dinner and grab something hot. Today it was at a joint called Cubby’s, which serves a solid bowl of rice and beans and other stuff. But starting Thursday it’ll be family-style cooked meals using the grills at the houses. My current plan looks something like:
Thursday
– Burgers and Dogs
– Chips
Friday
– BBQ Chicken
– Sausage
– Baked Beans
– Salad/Vegetable TBD
Saturday
– Steaks
– Mashed potatoes
– Asparagus
– Mushrooms
Sunday
– Steak + Chicken Fajitas
– Rice + Beans
Cooking big meals can be a lot of work, but the grills help and doing big family style meals will both save us all money and generally be more satisfying than just ordering a bunch of pizza. Also, i personally love doing the big meals like this. I like going to the grocery store at the start of a group vacation and buying all the supplies, like I’m the Quartermaster. Running around the grocery store, barking orders at people, saying shit like, “I need 22 steaks, two pounds of cheese, three loaves of bread, and four dozen eggs – MY BOYS GOTTA EAT.”
Our Event Prep
I’m team captain this time around, a role I neither want nor am prepared for, but like I said – we’re just here to have a good time this time around. I’m not particularly invested in winning and unlike Ottawa, our chances are much worse. Both because our team is not quite as good as that one and also because the competition is much, much tougher. I don’t think winning the event is a super realistic goal for us, and so I’d rather focus on having a good time. That said, we did do some prep. The big thing was building a matrix. This is something Ben Jurek just talked about in his most recent Road to LVO article – you need to understand how your matchups look.
Here’s the thing about matrices: They’re kind of bullshit. Not as a general practice, but in more of the sense of they don’t take into account player skill. I don’t care how good the matchup is on paper, if I throw Campbell into John Lennon, he’s going to lose that game barring some insane dice outcomes. He might not get 0-20’d, but he just doesn’t have the experience and skill to translate that imbalance into a strong result. What I find the matrices do best is give you a “vibe check” on the matchup. A strong score usually says to me that “this person has played this matchup and is confident they could win it.” And that’s all I’m looking for at this level of play. In that sense, elo scores matter more to me than army matchups as well, because knowing where our team is just outmatched is helpful.

Note: We use scores 1-5 instead of 0-20. I like this more because it feels more like a range and 0-20 would be too scientific for this crowd.
When I built the matrix, I started by having the team fill it in, but I also looked at their most recent tournament games – many of them went to NOVA – and used those scores to fill in scores as well. This gave me a pretty good matrix, but also one that feels wildly optimistic – but this is a problem which i think a lot of player matrices will have. When you build a team of people who win 60-80% of their games, it’s not out of the question for them to score all their games as 12+ wins, regardless of whether that’s realistic. When I do pairings, I’ll be looking for the 3s and 4s and trying to identify where someone has played a matchup before – having faced an army is ultimately the biggest factor in being able to beat them and play well in that matchup.
One other thing we did was set up a scrimm with one of the local Maryland teams who is going to be at the event. This was basically practicing pairings, going back and forth and looking at how we’d fare if we matched up. This was helpful, particularly for me to re-acquaint myself with pairings; I’m not great at it and I wasn’t in charge of it at Ottawa. It’s generally not something I want to put a lot of time and energy into. I enjoy being on a team and playing at a teams event but I definitely do not so much enjoy the metagame of the teams format or the tremendous hassle and bullshit of corralling an 8-player team.
That said I’ll take a deeper look at our round 1 pairings today and build a plan for how we want to attack them.
Next Time: Challengers Cup Results
That does it for this week’s update but come back next week when I’ll be recapping the weekend’s games and talking about what’s next. With six games to play over the next three days and a lot of hangouts, I’m sure I’ll have plenty to talk about.
Anyways, I’ll see you next Thursday.
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